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4.7.2006 thoughts after the ISSA argumentation congference

Computer aided or web-based argumentatio applications to look into:


Some names with potentially useful ideas/research on argumentation (pragma-dialectics, epistemology...):

  • Gábor Kutrovátz, Eotvos University of of Budapest
  • Ralph H. Johnson, Univeristy of Windsor
  • Dan Cohen, Colby College
  • Robert C. Rowland, University of Kansas
  • Michel Dufour, University Sorbonne Nouvelle
  • Christoph Lumer, University of Siena
  • Fabio Paglieri, University of Siena


Co-operation potential???

  • Gábor Kutrovátz, Eotvos University of of Budapest
  • Sara Rubinelli, University of Lugano
  • David M. Berube, University of South Carolina NanoCenter


Mikko 16:59, 4 July 2006 (EEST)

21.6.2006 technical issues in using Wiki

Mikko Pohjola

To make the Wiki working environment clear, useful and effective we must agree on certain kind of code of conduct and build the system in a way that it guides the users to right kinds of action in using it. In brief it is a question of:

  • effective design of the system
  • good user guidance to
    • the technical questions
    • use of the method
  • (minimal) control of the system

The first bullet, design, actually includes the second bullet, because the guidance is given in/by the system. Also the ways to minimize the need of control are in the design of the system. Since the environment is fixed in using Wiki, the design then means (a) how to make best use of the existing properties of Wiki (b) for the needs of environmental health risk assessment. Therefore the design is first methodological and second technical.

The methodology is now starting to take shape (Help:Writing pyrkilo risk assessments) in a way that it is about the time to take the technical issues into more detailed scrutiny. Open questions concerning this that require consideration in near future are at least e.g.:

  • use of categories to group the pages
    • operational environment -related
    • substantially relevant
    • managerial (project management etc.)???
  • use of templates to "standardize" the appearance
    • attribute tables
    • pre-framed pages
    • sharing content
  • control of hierarchy???
  • user guidance
    • technical
    • methodological


1.6.2006 On argumentation analysis for risk assessment

Participants: Jouni & Mikko

  • the role of argumentation analysis in risk assessment is to fill the gap between explicit modelling/calculation and unstructured discussion
    • helps e.g. in making complicated models easier to intrepret by non-experts and brings out the essentials of a discourse
  • the primary goal concerning argumentation analysis' utilization for risk assessment is to make it a common, easy-to-use, a priori method for risk assessors
  • also use of argumentation theory as an a posteriori method for reconstructing discourses afterwards can be fruitful
    • this line of use is probably necessary in explicating the usefulness of the method
  • discussion in Science about health risks/benefits of salmon shall be made an example for using argumentation analysis in risk assessment
  • in this example the assessor (as an "outsider") chooses the focus and scope of the argumentation analysis
    • if the basic standpoint of the analysis, and thus the point of view, is chosen solely based on the first article by Hites et al., it would be difficult to fit all the replies in the same picture (the disagreement space varies in settings Hites vs. Rembold, Hites vs. Tuomisto, etc...)