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{{attack|1 |Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}}
 
{{attack|1 |Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}}
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:{{defend|2 |In several published studies, the 2009 flu pandemic vaccines appear both effective and safe, having a similar safety profile to the normal seasonal influenza vaccine.|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 17:00, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
  
{{defend|2 |The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}}
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{{defend|3 |The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}}
:{{defend|3 |In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [http://www.thl.fi/fi_FI/web/fi/uutinen?id{{eq}}22930]}}
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:{{defend|4 |In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [http://www.thl.fi/fi_FI/web/fi/uutinen?id{{eq}}22930]}}
::{{attack|4 |Kari Välimäki, Chief of staff at the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health argues, that the suspension of Pandemrix is only a precautionary action, and that there is no doubt that in a similar situation, the same decisions would have been made.|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 16:55, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
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::{{attack|5 |Kari Välimäki, Chief of staff at the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health argues, that the suspension of Pandemrix is only a precautionary action, and that there is no doubt that in a similar situation, the same decisions would have been made.|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 16:55, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
{{defend|5 |There have been claims that THL would have had a conflict of interest, as it had received financing worth EUR 6 million from the vaccine producer GalaxoSmithKline (GSK)|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 16:51, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
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{{defend|6 |There have been claims that THL would have had a conflict of interest, as it had received financing worth EUR 6 million from the vaccine producer GalaxoSmithKline (GSK)|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 16:51, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
:{{attack|6 |The World Health Organization (WHO) examined the link between THL and GSK and found no evidence that research funding and the pharmaceutical company would have influenced the choise of vaccines|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 16:51, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
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:{{attack|7 |The World Health Organization (WHO) examined the link between THL and GSK and found no evidence that research funding and the pharmaceutical company would have influenced the choise of vaccines|--[[User:Jpmannikko|Jpmannikko]] 16:51, 4 April 2011 (EEST)}}
 
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Pandemrix should not be used because of narcolepsy risk

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Statements: Pandemrix should not be used any more anywhere because its narcolepsy risk is too high. NOTE! The time of the statement is September 2010.

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Argumentation:

1 : Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)

2 : In several published studies, the 2009 flu pandemic vaccines appear both effective and safe, having a similar safety profile to the normal seasonal influenza vaccine. --Jpmannikko 17:00, 4 April 2011 (EEST)

3 : The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)

4 : In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [1]
5 : Kari Välimäki, Chief of staff at the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health argues, that the suspension of Pandemrix is only a precautionary action, and that there is no doubt that in a similar situation, the same decisions would have been made. --Jpmannikko 16:55, 4 April 2011 (EEST)

6 : There have been claims that THL would have had a conflict of interest, as it had received financing worth EUR 6 million from the vaccine producer GalaxoSmithKline (GSK) --Jpmannikko 16:51, 4 April 2011 (EEST)

7 : The World Health Organization (WHO) examined the link between THL and GSK and found no evidence that research funding and the pharmaceutical company would have influenced the choise of vaccines --Jpmannikko 16:51, 4 April 2011 (EEST)