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− | {{ | + | {{attack_invalid|J1 |Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}} |
− | {{defend| | + | :{{attack|D1 |Side effects are still there and will be treated poorly in these countries.|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} |
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+ | {{comment|D2 |The decision to use Pandemrix was probably led by panic and other choices should be considered at this point.|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | :{{comment|# |This is a valid comment. However, comments do not affect the outcome of a discussion. You might want to develop this into an attack or a defence.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:45, 2 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | :{{defend|D3 |Finland used a vaccination with additives, against the recommendation of WHO|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | ::{{branch|D4 |Additives can cause flu-like symptoms, increasing the public's opinion against vaccination|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | :::{{comment|# |Good usage of branches! However, branches do not affect the outcome of a discussion. You could use this branch also to defend J2 and then it would have an impact on this discussion.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:45, 2 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | {{defend|J2 |The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | {{defend|J3 |In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [http://www.thl.fi/fi_FI/web/fi/uutinen?id{{eq}}22930]}} | ||
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+ | {{attack|D5 |Pandemrix has a lower Hg content than other vaccines (2.5 vs 25 µg), which could cause other neurological problems in children|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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+ | {{comment|# |General comment: Add links to the pages from where you found the arguments. See Group E.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:45, 2 April 2011 (EEST)}} | ||
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*[http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publications/2010/9789241599924_eng.pdf Evolution of a pandemic, World Health Organization (WHO), 2009 (Report)] | *[http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publications/2010/9789241599924_eng.pdf Evolution of a pandemic, World Health Organization (WHO), 2009 (Report)] | ||
*[http://www.rokotusinfo.fi/rokotteet/sikainfluenssa_html] | *[http://www.rokotusinfo.fi/rokotteet/sikainfluenssa_html] |
Revision as of 04:45, 2 April 2011
Pandemrix should not be used because of narcolepsy risk
Statements: Pandemrix should not be used any more anywhere because its narcolepsy risk is too high. NOTE! The time of the statement is September 2010.
Resolution: Resolution not yet found. (A stable resolution, when found, should be updated to the main page.) |
Argumentation:
⇤J1 Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)
--D2 : The decision to use Pandemrix was probably led by panic and other choices should be considered at this point. --Carmen Gil 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)
←J2 : The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST) ←J3 : In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [1] ⇤D5 : Pandemrix has a lower Hg content than other vaccines (2.5 vs 25 µg), which could cause other neurological problems in children --Carmen Gil 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST) |
--# : General comment: Add links to the pages from where you found the arguments. See Group E. --Jouni 07:45, 2 April 2011 (EEST)
--# : JUNE: I have your notebook. --Jouni 11:50, 1 April 2011 (EEST)