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== Pandemrix should not be used because of narcolepsy risk == | == Pandemrix should not be used because of narcolepsy risk == | ||
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− | {{attack|D5 |Pandemrix has a lower Hg content than other vaccines (2.5 vs 25 µg), which could cause other neurological problems in children|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}} | + | {{attack|D5 |Pandemrix has a lower Hg content than other vaccines (2.5 vs 25 µg), which could cause other neurological problems in children|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}},[http://www.thl.fi/en_US/web/en/pressrelease?id=22930] |
{{attack|D3b |The vaccine may still have been used where no other option was available and upon consideration in individual cases, for instance for people travelling to areas where an epidemic was in progress.|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}},[http://www.thl.fi/en_US/web/en/pressrelease?id=22930] | {{attack|D3b |The vaccine may still have been used where no other option was available and upon consideration in individual cases, for instance for people travelling to areas where an epidemic was in progress.|--[[User:Carmen Gil|Carmen Gil]] 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST)}},[http://www.thl.fi/en_US/web/en/pressrelease?id=22930] | ||
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:{{attack|D6 |The reputation may have been poor especially in Finland, Sweden and in informed people outside these two countries at the time Narcolepsy cases were reported to be associated with Pandemrix but at this stage, however according to WHO it does not appear that narcolepsy following vaccination against pandemic influenza is a general worldwide phenomenon as you have stated, therefore its not a global view and it may still be used where its reputation is good.|--[[User:June|June]] 02:45, 3 April 2011 (EEST)}}, [http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/topics/influenza/pandemic/h1n1_safety_assessing/narcolepsy_february2011/en/index.html] | :{{attack|D6 |The reputation may have been poor especially in Finland, Sweden and in informed people outside these two countries at the time Narcolepsy cases were reported to be associated with Pandemrix but at this stage, however according to WHO it does not appear that narcolepsy following vaccination against pandemic influenza is a general worldwide phenomenon as you have stated, therefore its not a global view and it may still be used where its reputation is good.|--[[User:June|June]] 02:45, 3 April 2011 (EEST)}}, [http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/topics/influenza/pandemic/h1n1_safety_assessing/narcolepsy_february2011/en/index.html] | ||
− | + | {{defend|J3 |In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix.|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [http://www.thl.fi/fi_FI/web/fi/uutinen?id{{eq}}22930]}} | |
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Revision as of 16:10, 3 April 2011
Pandemrix should not be used because of narcolepsy risk
- Group members: Carmen, Minna & June
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Resolution:
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Argumentation:
⇤D5 : Pandemrix has a lower Hg content than other vaccines (2.5 vs 25 µg), which could cause other neurological problems in children --Carmen Gil 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST),[1] ⇤D3b : The vaccine may still have been used where no other option was available and upon consideration in individual cases, for instance for people travelling to areas where an epidemic was in progress. --Carmen Gil 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST),[2] ⇤J1 Despite risks, Pandemrix is an effective vaccine and has clearly net positive effects in countries where emergency treatment is poorly available for severe swine flu cases. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)
--D3a : The decision to use Pandemrix was probably led by panic and other choices should be considered at this point when narcolepsy cases were identified. --Carmen Gil 11:25, 1 April 2011 (EEST),[5]
←J2 The reputation of Pandemrix is globally so poor that it is impossible to use it any more. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST)
←J3 : In Finland, THL decided to stop the use of Pandemrix. --Jouni 23:05, 31 March 2011 (EEST), [7] |
--# : General comment: Add links to the pages from where you found the arguments. See Group E. --Jouni 07:45, 2 April 2011 (EEST)
--# : JUNE: I have your notebook. --Jouni 11:50, 1 April 2011 (EEST)