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{{defend|1|A stakeholder meeting is a more or less formally conducted process of collecting information from stakeholders. The format of the process is first defined (e.g. at least to the extent that it is decided to invite people and suggest them what should be discussed about) and it produces some information that is (hopefully) documented more or less systematically. The open question that remains to be wondered is, what does the collected information tell about. Fits the definition of a [[Study]] nicely!|--[[User:Mikko Pohjola|Mikko Pohjola]] 14:04, 10 February 2009 (EET), --[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 20:22, 15 February 2009 (EET)}}
 
{{defend|1|A stakeholder meeting is a more or less formally conducted process of collecting information from stakeholders. The format of the process is first defined (e.g. at least to the extent that it is decided to invite people and suggest them what should be discussed about) and it produces some information that is (hopefully) documented more or less systematically. The open question that remains to be wondered is, what does the collected information tell about. Fits the definition of a [[Study]] nicely!|--[[User:Mikko Pohjola|Mikko Pohjola]] 14:04, 10 February 2009 (EET), --[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 20:22, 15 February 2009 (EET)}}
  
 
{{defend|3|In this case, the purpose of collecting feedback is so strong that this clearly more a [[study]] than a [[lecture]].|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 20:22, 15 February 2009 (EET)}}
 
{{defend|3|In this case, the purpose of collecting feedback is so strong that this clearly more a [[study]] than a [[lecture]].|--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 20:22, 15 February 2009 (EET)}}
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:{{comment|2|A stakeholder can also be considered from a point of view of a lecture - meeting the stakeholders to pass information to them. In practice both aspects, lecture and study, are probably most often emphasized: Lecture in terms of creating the understanding about the setting, study in terms of collecting information that can be used in updating variables and assessments.|--[[User:Mikko Pohjola|Mikko Pohjola]] 14:34, 10 February 2009 (EET)}}
 
:{{comment|2|A stakeholder can also be considered from a point of view of a lecture - meeting the stakeholders to pass information to them. In practice both aspects, lecture and study, are probably most often emphasized: Lecture in terms of creating the understanding about the setting, study in terms of collecting information that can be used in updating variables and assessments.|--[[User:Mikko Pohjola|Mikko Pohjola]] 14:34, 10 February 2009 (EET)}}
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{{defend|#: |If I understood correctly, study it is. Nevertheless in the [[create article]] -page there are not such options - yet.  
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{{defend|4|If I understood correctly, study it is. Nevertheless in the [[create article]] -page there are not such options - yet.  
 
This is very good example to realize why people is scared to use (or write to) wiki or Opasnet. When they feel that they know enough to use it, basic formats and rules of pages have changed again. People can feel frustrated themselves trying to be updated with all rules of Opasnet.|--[[User:Pauliina|Pauliina]] 11:39, 17 February 2009 (EET)}}
 
This is very good example to realize why people is scared to use (or write to) wiki or Opasnet. When they feel that they know enough to use it, basic formats and rules of pages have changed again. People can feel frustrated themselves trying to be updated with all rules of Opasnet.|--[[User:Pauliina|Pauliina]] 11:39, 17 February 2009 (EET)}}
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Stakeholder meeting is a study

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Statements: Stakeholder meeting should be structured as a study

Resolution: Accepted.

(A stable resolution, when found, should be updated to the main page.)

Argumentation:

1: A stakeholder meeting is a more or less formally conducted process of collecting information from stakeholders. The format of the process is first defined (e.g. at least to the extent that it is decided to invite people and suggest them what should be discussed about) and it produces some information that is (hopefully) documented more or less systematically. The open question that remains to be wondered is, what does the collected information tell about. Fits the definition of a Study nicely! --Mikko Pohjola 14:04, 10 February 2009 (EET), --Jouni 20:22, 15 February 2009 (EET)

3: In this case, the purpose of collecting feedback is so strong that this clearly more a study than a lecture. --Jouni 20:22, 15 February 2009 (EET)

--2: A stakeholder can also be considered from a point of view of a lecture - meeting the stakeholders to pass information to them. In practice both aspects, lecture and study, are probably most often emphasized: Lecture in terms of creating the understanding about the setting, study in terms of collecting information that can be used in updating variables and assessments. --Mikko Pohjola 14:34, 10 February 2009 (EET)

4: If I understood correctly, study it is. Nevertheless in the create article -page there are not such options - yet. This is very good example to realize why people is scared to use (or write to) wiki or Opasnet. When they feel that they know enough to use it, basic formats and rules of pages have changed again. People can feel frustrated themselves trying to be updated with all rules of Opasnet. --Pauliina 11:39, 17 February 2009 (EET)