Difference between revisions of "Talk:The mortality due to PM 2.5 from buses"
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{{defend|#(1): |Premature deaths due to PM2.5 from buses should be defined as '''addtional''' to background premature deaths|--[[User:Jgrellier|Jgrellier]] 17:29, 20 February 2008 (EET)}} | {{defend|#(1): |Premature deaths due to PM2.5 from buses should be defined as '''addtional''' to background premature deaths|--[[User:Jgrellier|Jgrellier]] 17:29, 20 February 2008 (EET)}} | ||
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| + | {{attack|#(2): |There is no such thing as 'additional' or 'premature' deaths. Everybody dies once, so in the end (let's say, if a whole cohort has died), no one died ''additionally''. Instead, they have died earlier. (see next dispute) |--[[User:Anne.knol|Anne.knol]] 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET)}} | ||
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| + | == Premature deaths --[[User:Anne.knol|Anne.knol]] 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET) == | ||
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| + | {{defend|#(1): |'premature deaths' should better be described as 'deaths put forward', since the concept of premature deaths suggests that there is something like a 'mature death' which I don't not think is the good terminology |--[[User:Anne.knol|Anne.knol]] 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET)}} | ||
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Revision as of 15:43, 20 February 2008
Contents
- 1 Mortality in the formula -- Anne.knol 16:56, 20 February 2008 (EET)
- 2 Scope should contain temporal information -- Ninais 17:20, 20 February 2008 (EET)
- 3 Premature deaths --Anne.knol 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET)
- 4 Delete "Effect of bus type on PM2.5 emissions and exposure" -- Ninais 17:30, 20 February 2008 (EET)
Mortality in the formula -- Anne.knol 16:56, 20 February 2008 (EET)
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←#(1): : The background mortality (Mb) is input into the formula, whereas the Mortality (M) is the output of the formula. These are therefore two different parameters --Anne.knol 17:06, 20 February 2008 (EET) |
Scope should contain temporal information -- Ninais 17:20, 20 February 2008 (EET)
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←#(1): : The scope is not clear because it refers to number of premature deaths - but not the timeframe (daily, monthly, yearly etc), or whether or not it is yearly average, or in a particular year (i.e. 1997 or 2020) --Ninais 17:20, 20 February 2008 (EET) |
== Premature deaths should be considered as additional == Jgrellier 17:30, 20 February 2008 (EET)
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←#(1): : Premature deaths due to PM2.5 from buses should be defined as addtional to background premature deaths --Jgrellier 17:29, 20 February 2008 (EET) ⇤#(2): : There is no such thing as 'additional' or 'premature' deaths. Everybody dies once, so in the end (let's say, if a whole cohort has died), no one died additionally. Instead, they have died earlier. (see next dispute) --Anne.knol 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET) |
Premature deaths --Anne.knol 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET)
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←#(1): : 'premature deaths' should better be described as 'deaths put forward', since the concept of premature deaths suggests that there is something like a 'mature death' which I don't not think is the good terminology --Anne.knol 17:43, 20 February 2008 (EET) |
Delete "Effect of bus type on PM2.5 emissions and exposure" -- Ninais 17:30, 20 February 2008 (EET)
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Resolution: Resolution not yet found. (A stable resolution, when found, should be updated to the main page.) |
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←#(1): : "Effect of bus type on PM2.5 emissions and exposure" refers to the scenarios and assessment, but is not a parent variable (and "bus type" is not within the scope of the variable because it is a scenario in the assessment). --Ninais 17:30, 20 February 2008 (EET) |
